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Re: coop tenant-shareholder: methinks he doth protest too much

Posted by jeannie on March 13, 2000 at 16:13:04:

In Reply to: Re: HPD Inspections: MADE UP dangerous conditions in coop posted by Curious on March 11, 2000 at 22:56:38:

Re: HPD Inspections: MADE UP dangerous conditions in coop

just curious myself:

:Unfortunately you added your own info.

What info did I add?

jumpin' joe flash:

:I'm sorry that you jumped to the wrong conclusions.

Please specify. I simply re-stated your words.

My conclusion per JJ: violations are for real conditions:

The subject of your second message says "...MADE UP dangerous conditions..."
However, you very strongly implied that conditions do exist in your first message
where you stated "...she is responsible for making repairs because it is a co-op..."
for the "...violations generated..." by HPD. It is common knowledge to all who live
in, have friends who do, or even read a little about, coops/condos that the
shareholder/unit owner is responsible for most repairs in their own unit. Why did
you state the obvious if not to imply that dangerous conditions did in fact exist?
Why, if no conditions exist, state "... this person is very afraid of what may

The only reasonable conclusion is that violations do exist.

If no conditions exist, why did you not simply ask: 'HPD recorded violations for
conditions that never existed: how do we correct this?'

curiouser and curiouser:

::Read my lips, "She states that no one entered her home".:: Get the picture?

Why do you ask? Nothing in my response suggests anyone did enter.

Actually, I 'assumed for the sake of argument' that your statement was true. But in
fact, the only way anyone could know with certainty that there was no inspection is
for that person to refuse to let the inspector in. Impeding an investigation is a
criminal offense.

BTW: some conditions in the unit are visible from outside of the unit, e.g. from a
door opened a little, from the windows.

a little knowledge is a dangerous thing:

: I was unaware that HPD did inspections in co-ops as they are governed by
another agency that does annual inspections (so sue me).

Where do you get your mis-information? From a fellow tenant-shareholder? Does
your friend believe this also? Did she buy a coop but not learn anything about her
rights and responsibilities? Can she read? Habitat? The Cooperator? CNYC's
newsletter? the New York Times Sunday Real Estate column? a book? the

methinks he doth protest too much:

: What it boils down to is that I asked questions, and you jumped to conclusions.
: You misunderstood.
: Didn't your dad ever tell you to ask questions if you don't understand?
::Read my lips, "She states that no one entered her home".:: Get the picture?

Do you usually blame others for your shortcomings? How frequently do you
pretend that others are wrong or have wronged you to make yourself feel good or
normal or superior? How far do go to express anger/hatred toward someone who
does not recognize your 'superior knowledge or authority'? Do you slander them?
Have you physically threatened them? Do these questions better describe
someone in your home, office, or building?

Are you the building manager/director/officer one of these dysfunctional buildings?
Is your friend?

elementary, my dear Watson:

: When this mystery unravels, I'll let you know what happens.

I might be busy buying a lovely bridge a curious tenant-shareholder told me about...

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