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Posted by John on December 11, 2001 at 16:38:14:

In Reply to: I don't think paying rent to LL has relevance here... posted by MikeW on November 15, 2001 at 14:36:32:

Most landlords add names to a lease after it is expired (lazy I guess), but others take advantage of the additional tenants and raise the rent (water usage, etc). It seems to me that with checks being cashed and each tenant has/had one extra person (it is allowed) as in a family member (boy/girl friend) is part of the tendancy.

Simlpy put they can't just kick you out.

Talk to the landlord and be sure the landlord is aware you live there. You can request to be added in the lease with a new lease. agree to the increases and give your roommates a copy.

Of course this will cause problems, but by doing that they are stuck with you.

Get a lawyer for more detailed advice.

: They have no lease in their name and no written agreement with the prime tenant. This makes them month to month. The can be out with 30 days notice.

: : Usually VERY little......but in this case YOU paid your rent to the landlord, that effectively means YOU ARE on the lease, since you have a landlord tenant relationship, as opposed to paying the rent to the roomate in which case the roomate is your landlord.

: : When does the lease end? You would have just as much say as the roomate....but if you both fight over this, the landlord could choose not renew the lease and everybody has to leave.

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: : : What rights do people have who are living in an apartment share but have never signed a lease?

: : : My girlfriend and I have been living in Brooklyn with 2 other people in shared 3-bedroom for the past nine months and although we are not on the lease, we had a verbal agreement of permanency with our housemates who signed the lease. Our rent checks have been written directly to the landlord, if that makes a difference. Now they are kicking us out so a friend of theirs can move in. Do we have any rights or are we just screwed? Whom can I contact to find out?

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: Most landlords add names to a lease after it is expired (lazy I guess), but others take advantage of the additional tenants and raise the rent (water usage, etc). It seems to me that with checks being cashed and each tenant has/had one extra person (it is allowed) as in a family member (boy/girl friend) is part of the tendancy. 

: Simlpy put they can't just kick you out. 

: Talk to the landlord and be sure the landlord is aware you live there. You can request to be added in the lease with a new lease. agree to the increases and give your roommates a copy. 

: Of course this will cause problems, but by doing that they are stuck with you.

: Get a lawyer for more detailed advice.


: : They have no lease in their name and no written agreement with the prime tenant.  This makes them month to month.  The can be out with 30 days notice.

: : :   Usually VERY little......but in this case YOU paid your rent to the landlord, that effectively means YOU ARE on the lease, since you have a landlord tenant relationship, as opposed to paying  the rent to the roomate in which case the roomate is your landlord.

: : : When does the lease end?   You would have just as much say as the roomate....but if you both fight over this, the landlord could choose not renew the lease and everybody has to leave.    

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: : : : What rights do people have who are living in an apartment share but have never signed a lease?

: : : : My girlfriend and I have been living in Brooklyn with 2 other people in shared 3-bedroom for the past nine months and although we are not on the lease, we had a verbal agreement of permanency with our housemates who signed the lease.   Our rent checks have been written directly to the landlord, if that makes a difference.  Now they are kicking us out so a friend of theirs can move in.  Do we have any rights or are we just screwed?  Whom can I contact to find out?


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