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Posted by me again on February 04, 2002 at 16:22:08:

In Reply to: Re: Cats? Harrassment? posted by TenantNet on February 04, 2002 at 15:15:03:

: It appears the other responders missed the point(s).

i didn't miss the point on visitors, i qualified my response in saying about the loud stomping and knocking, so i said the same thing you just did.

: As for pets, see the NYC Pet Law on tenant.net. In short, if you keep a pet "openly and notoriously" for three months or more, then you're off the hook. If the landlord is aware of the pet, or the super was in the apartment when the pet was there, then that's considered to be knowledge on the LL's part. So wait three months. If he doesn't bring a court proceeding, it should be OK (that does not mean he won't give you grief). Research the pet law on tenant.net, especially on Housing Court Decisions. Probably, the three months start with the new cat.

this part will probably get sticky, because you were notified once to get rid of the cat, and you did, so you have acknowledged that you are not permitted to have one. how do you 'openly and notoriously' keep a kitten? i would think that the 3 months start when the landlord/agent was AWARE that the second cat was there, not the date you got it, which is another sticky issue. unless you have dated pics of you, the kitten, and the super together, proving his knowledge would be a little tough. i stick by my original answer.
also, the assumption that all posters to this board are in NYC is probably flawed. many posters lately have been from around the country, where NYC law is practically laughed at.
maybe you should make the little blurb about putting in your city/state in a little larger type?

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: : It appears the other responders missed the point(s).

: i didn't miss the point on visitors, i qualified my response in saying about the loud stomping and knocking, so i said the same thing you just did. 

: : As for pets, see the NYC Pet Law on tenant.net. In short, if you keep a pet "openly and notoriously" for three months or more, then you're off the hook. If the landlord is aware of the pet, or the super was in the apartment when the pet was there, then that's considered to be knowledge on the LL's part. So wait three months. If he doesn't bring a court proceeding, it should be OK (that does not mean he won't give you grief). Research the pet law on tenant.net, especially on Housing Court Decisions. Probably, the three months start with the new cat. 

: this part will probably get sticky, because you were notified once to get rid of the cat, and you did, so you have acknowledged that you are not permitted to have one. how do you 'openly and notoriously' keep a kitten? i would think that the 3 months start when the landlord/agent was AWARE that the second cat was there, not the date you got it, which is another sticky issue. unless you have dated pics of you, the kitten, and the super together, proving his knowledge would be a little tough. i stick by my original answer. 
: also, the assumption that all posters to this board are in NYC is probably flawed. many posters lately have been from around the country, where NYC law is practically laughed at. 
: maybe you should make the little blurb about putting in your city/state in a little larger type?  


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