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Posted by Mark Smith on August 25, 1999 at 18:54:46:

In Reply to: Re: finding an apartment in astoria posted by richard on August 25, 1999 at 18:19:18:

If Richard thinks that rental landlords can be difficult, let him (or anyone else) try to buy a co-op apartment. Then he'll come to know the meaning of the phrase "arbitrary and capricious." And many people who can afford rent or co-op maintenance can't afford the down payment.

Refusing to rent to people with children is illegal [Real Property Law §236], except in the case of owner-occupied one-family and two-family houses and certain senior citizen housing. You can sue for damages and attorneys' fees, but proving the case may not be easy.

: If you have ample income to rent, why don't you have ample income to buy a co-op?

: Or else you should move farther out of the city....

: It is a shame people wont rent to families, but the truth is some people really,really like peace and QUIET.....
: And since they have most of their assets tied up in their home....
: they do have a right to place restrictions on who is going to rent their apartment.

: So why not get the family involved and rustle up a down paymnet and buy something?

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: : i have a good job, i have a loving family, i'm honest and upright, why can't i find an apartment in astoria, queens? because i have three children (8,10,12) and NOBODY accepts children. i have ample income to rent a three bedroom, but i've been lied to and double crossed for the two months that i have been seriously looking. do i have any resources? any rights? i've been told by agents that they don't even deal with people with children. i've been told by apartment owners that children make too much noise and use too much water. i don't know where to go anymore. we're (all five of us-including my husband) all staying in my mom and dad's four room apartment. is there anyway around this situation?

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: If Richard thinks that rental landlords can be difficult, let him (or anyone else) try to buy a co-op apartment.  Then he'll come to know the meaning of the phrase "arbitrary and capricious." And many people who can afford rent or co-op maintenance can't afford the down payment.  

: Refusing to rent to people with children is illegal [Real Property Law §236], except in the case of owner-occupied one-family and two-family houses and certain senior citizen housing.  You can sue for damages and attorneys' fees, but proving the case may not be easy.  


: :  If you have ample income to rent, why don't you have ample income to buy a co-op?

: :  Or else you should move farther out of the city....

: :  It is a shame people wont rent to families, but the truth is some people really,really like peace and QUIET.....
: :   And since they have most of their assets tied up in their home....
: :   they do have a right to place restrictions on who is going to rent their apartment.

: :  So why not get the family involved and rustle up a down paymnet and buy something?

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: : : i have a good job, i have a loving family, i'm honest and upright, why can't i find an apartment in astoria, queens?  because i have three children (8,10,12) and NOBODY accepts children.  i have ample income to rent a three bedroom, but i've been lied to and double crossed for the two months that i have been seriously looking.  do i have any resources?  any rights?  i've been told by agents that they don't even deal with people with children.  i've been told by apartment owners that children make too much noise and use too much water.  i don't know where to go anymore.  we're (all five of us-including my husband) all staying in my mom and dad's four room apartment.  is there anyway around this situation?  


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